tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31180029.post6411430117056920681..comments2024-03-28T03:20:20.956-04:00Comments on peaceful parenting: Christians: Baptism, Not CircumcisionUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31180029.post-17065889957377595722011-05-25T19:00:09.110-04:002011-05-25T19:00:09.110-04:00Okay, I'm a Christian and didn't actually ...Okay, I'm a Christian and didn't actually know that (cringe). Thanks for the information! Luckily, I decided after watching 3 circumcisions in nursing school (nauseated the whole time) that any boys we were blessed with wouldn't have to go through that. The hubby agreed after an in depth description of the process. I didn't even need to make him watch the videos!<br /><br />@ Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31180029.post-17536225378731707602010-02-21T18:26:17.087-05:002010-02-21T18:26:17.087-05:00@ANI: "you cannot regain 25 square inches of ...@ANI: "you cannot regain 25 square inches of skin with all the nerve endings gone with circumcision."<br /><br />Let's not go overboard. 25 sq in would be <i>very</i> abundant. The average is more like 15 sq in (100cm^2). You can see a picture (NSFW) and animations <a href="http://www.circumstitions.com/Notjustaflap.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.<br /><br />You can see some of the Hugh7http://www.circumstitions.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31180029.post-56314396238707464522010-02-20T11:53:41.101-05:002010-02-20T11:53:41.101-05:00Here is another link about Kellogg and his views:
...Here is another link about Kellogg and his views:<br />http://www.circumstitions.com/Kellogg.html He was instrumental in circumcision starting up in the Western world.<br /><br />A great reference for anyone who tries to say they want to circ their baby because it's in the bible - this link shows the clear difference between biblical and modern circ.<br />http://www.fisheaters.com/Raelynnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11787640135288509794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31180029.post-33677757794120390132010-02-20T10:12:08.144-05:002010-02-20T10:12:08.144-05:00As a Christian intactivist, I go CRAZY when I hear...As a Christian intactivist, I go CRAZY when I hear other "Christian" parents using that as a circ excuse. I don't care WHAT religion you follow; there is no reason good enough for slicing up babies. *sigh*"Laurenhttp://www.doctorsopposingcircumcision.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31180029.post-82593821116768615752010-02-19T20:35:42.315-05:002010-02-19T20:35:42.315-05:00@Bridget Daffinrud-James Wikipedia has info on Joh...@Bridget Daffinrud-James Wikipedia has info on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Harvey_Kellogg#Views_on_sexuality" rel="nofollow">John Harvey Kellogg</a> that may shed some light on the historical climate that instigated circumcision in the United States.Restoring Tallyhttp://www.restoringforeskin.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31180029.post-72366811816122871842010-02-18T16:16:35.925-05:002010-02-18T16:16:35.925-05:00I'm curious what exactly "Kellogg" a...I'm curious what exactly "Kellogg" and "Graham" said and when regarding purifying boys by circumcising them? The reason why is although I completely disagree with the cultural practice of circumcision, my parents are not. I know that the way my parents view it is from the many years of it being drilled into their minds that circumcision was the way to go. However, I Bridget Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01888206843266294032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31180029.post-1316062831041488952010-02-18T12:38:53.951-05:002010-02-18T12:38:53.951-05:00I totally respect people's choices when it com...I totally respect people's choices when it comes to choices that will do no bodily harm. <br /><br />My daughter enjoys, and I mean *really* enjoys going to mass and getting prepared for her first communion. If she tells me, mom, I hate it and I want to go to another school, why would I force her to do something she doesn't want to do... <br /><br />It's hilarious when I hear Enithhttp://www.catholicsagainstcircumcision.org/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31180029.post-82511031170888435112010-02-18T12:36:05.562-05:002010-02-18T12:36:05.562-05:00We didn't have our son baptized...we consider ...We didn't have our son baptized...we consider religion to be a learned choice rather than something inherited or pushed on someone...and we of course would never cut our child's body either.Kathleennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31180029.post-89915882535867833602010-02-18T12:34:36.595-05:002010-02-18T12:34:36.595-05:00Really, this shirt is not about one practice over ...Really, this shirt is not about one practice over the other... (although, like Steven pointed out - water sprinkled over your head can be meaningless or meaningful depending on your future choice, whereas having 1/3 your penis chopped off is always 'meaning-filled' in one way or another).<br /><br />If someone is atheist, then this shirt probably won't be one they find beneficial to Danellehttp://www.drmomma.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31180029.post-72889558695810374552010-02-18T12:32:53.480-05:002010-02-18T12:32:53.480-05:00I agree Enith!
I mean what I said in the most resp...I agree Enith!<br />I mean what I said in the most respectful way, we can all be offended in different ways. I'm just pointing out why I think the two are pretty different in terms of lifelong effects.Clairenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31180029.post-14888088669445918742010-02-18T12:31:58.678-05:002010-02-18T12:31:58.678-05:00Hey, I'm an atheist as well, but I would much ...Hey, I'm an atheist as well, but I would much rather have had holy water sprinkled on me (since it has no meaning to me, right?) than to have had a part of my body cut off.Stevenhttp://www.mgmbill.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31180029.post-81414283259829897512010-02-18T12:30:52.977-05:002010-02-18T12:30:52.977-05:00true true Claire. One thing I have always said, we...true true Claire. One thing I have always said, we are a practicing Catholic family, my kids go to Catholic school as well. If my child later in life says to me, "mom, I want to be an Atheist", I will let him/her be what he/she wants. The important issue here is I only want them to be good people, to be compassionate to others and to give love. I will feel like a failure if they become Enithhttp://www.asnatureintended.info/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31180029.post-15214444104995585342010-02-18T12:30:12.440-05:002010-02-18T12:30:12.440-05:00I was baptized, too....and I do not practice that ...I was baptized, too....and I do not practice that particular religion....baptism did NOT hurt me, circumcision would have PHYSICALLY hurt me! HUGE DIFFERENCE!Stephhttp://www.circinfosite.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31180029.post-31600651665064459022010-02-18T12:29:36.266-05:002010-02-18T12:29:36.266-05:00if a person is baptized and not practicing, baptis...if a person is baptized and not practicing, baptism is pretty meaningless. America was founded as a place to respect religious freedom.<br /><br />a baby born into a Catholic family is going to learn his family's faith and culture the same way an atheist family might raise their kid their way. and then both kids may grow up and reject everything their parents held dear. <br /><br />Baptism Clairehttp://www.catholicsagainstcircumcision.org/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31180029.post-50362696760353521962010-02-18T12:28:12.507-05:002010-02-18T12:28:12.507-05:00you can get de-baptized. did you know that? you ca...you can get de-baptized. did you know that? you cannot regain 25 square inches of skin with all the nerve endings gone with circumcision. Baptism is just as giving the baby a blessing.ANIhttp://www.asnatureintended.info/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31180029.post-32783233107452708002010-02-18T12:27:11.379-05:002010-02-18T12:27:11.379-05:00Sprinkling water over a baby does no bodily harm. ...Sprinkling water over a baby does no bodily harm. Whether or not the child grows to choose the same beliefs as his/her parents, baptism does not permanently alter or maim the body. Obviously the same is not true for those whose genitals are cut for religious (or other) reasons.<br /><br />That said, this shirt is for Christians - to encourage them to pause and recognize that there is MUCH more toNickhttp://www.doctorsopposingcircumcision.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31180029.post-1258673018859503312010-02-18T12:25:46.787-05:002010-02-18T12:25:46.787-05:00Agreed, Michelle.Agreed, Michelle.Stephaniehttp://www.cirp.org/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31180029.post-12699645929456898592010-02-18T12:25:06.113-05:002010-02-18T12:25:06.113-05:00I agree. Baptism doesn't remove any parts of s...I agree. Baptism doesn't remove any parts of someone's body. I do believe this message works well for misguided Christians who thinks circumcision is a 'requirement' when it's not. It's tragic this isn't universal knowledge among all Christians.Michellehttp://www.nocirc.org/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31180029.post-87865573442213577992010-02-18T12:23:47.169-05:002010-02-18T12:23:47.169-05:00Circumcision is unquestionably a violation of huma...Circumcision is unquestionably a violation of human rights and never right. But baptism offends me too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31180029.post-83436875176286733572010-02-18T12:08:40.153-05:002010-02-18T12:08:40.153-05:00Quite true, Hethir!Quite true, Hethir!Mikehttp://www.catholicsagainstcircumcision.org/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31180029.post-7320083045034100172010-02-18T12:08:01.614-05:002010-02-18T12:08:01.614-05:00As a Christian intactivist I can assure you that i...As a Christian intactivist I can assure you that it's NOT a Christian doctrine. <br /><br />In fact, the new testament from which we base our Christian beliefs says that Circ is NOTHING. It has NOTHING to do with salvation. The new testament makes it clear that God is after our hearts, not our appearance. It's from Jewish law (the old testament) and even then the circ that was being done Hethirnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31180029.post-81629082672263904272010-02-18T12:07:00.189-05:002010-02-18T12:07:00.189-05:00except that it is NOT a 'little snip' - no...except that it is NOT a 'little snip' - not even close. and they certainly need no perfectly created organs amputated. Someone knew what he was doing when he designed the human body -- he did not make mistakes.Danellehttp://www.drmomma.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31180029.post-687119236541142122010-02-18T12:06:36.731-05:002010-02-18T12:06:36.731-05:00I was just thinking about this this morning. How d...I was just thinking about this this morning. How do Christians reconcile that God created their baby boy as a flawed human being that needed a little snip to be 'perfect'?Julienoreply@blogger.com